Re: about founding z developement of zsh

[René Wilhelm <asdf@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>]

Hello Zsh-people,

oh yes, I like Marcs ideas... please rewrite Zsh in Rust and give us
lambdas and the other things mentioned. That sounds like a proper (unpaid)
project for the next quarter-decade.

Greetings



On 19 June 2018 at 11:12, Marc Chantreux <eiro@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:

> hello people,
>
> > The problem with that is none of the core zsh developers have
> > ever asked for contributions in a quarter century of its existence,
> > and all are unpaid volunteers.
>
> well ... i am a zsh user since circa 2001 and always felt i didn't gave
> zsh enough (same for perl, vim, linux, dwm, gnome and all those awesome
> software that gave me 20 years of fun using floss).
>
> i only have 1 patch in zsh, i don't really contribute to zsh but i try
> to be active in the ecosystem
>
> * support french users
> * promote zsh in technical mailing lists, local meetups and
>   other conferences
>   (http://act.perlconference.org/tpc-2018-glasgow/talk/7338)
> * start writing a zsh programming guide
>   (https://github.com/eiro/zsh-programming-guide)
> * start writing a plugin system with a very opiniated coding style
>   (as perlish as we can) (https://github.com/zsh-uze)
>
> basically, i try to spend some of the time i spared using zsh to promote
> it because ... gosh ... when i have to read some bash/ksh/sh/posix code,
> my eyes are bleeding and i really want to see more zsh outzere.
>
> i started a list of things i would like to see appearing in zsh here
>
>     https://github.com/eiro/zsh-programming-guide/blob/master/
> c/wishlist.md
>
> and i guess some topics means huge work so unpaid patches coming time to
> time are not enough.
>
> and i wonder if this is worth a founding campain... and to be honnest,
> sometimes i also wonder if a fresh start using a modern langage (like
> crystal or rust)
> should be an option. there is the elvish shell
> (https://github.com/elves/elvish) written in go as example but i really
> think it took many wrong directions: basically, the perfect shell to me
> should be zsh with
>
> * nested structures
> * namespaces
> * lambdas
> * function signatures (ideally with gradual typing where a type should
>   be defined as 2 lambdas: serialize and deserialize)
>
> but maybe this whole thing should have a dark side: if someone is paid
> for this, why should i contrib for free, ones should ask.
>
> regards,
> marc
>