Re: Official plugin manager?

[dana <dana@xxxxxxx>]

On 2 Jan 2020, at 20:43, Sebastian Gniazdowski <sgniazdowski@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> Well yes, because I suspect that there will be a rough time on
> establishing what the defaults are supposed to be.

Right, from what i've heard, that has been an issue in the past. But it needs
to be done to address this. OMZ did it.

I really do think that novice users don't understand the significance of the
choices you seem to be proposing (obv), and they don't want to spend 45
minutes tapping through a wizard to have it explained to them, either. When
they run zsh for the first time, they just want to see what it can *do* — they
can change their history-file path later, if they want.

On 2 Jan 2020, at 20:45, Bart Schaefer <schaefer@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> It has been our long-standing practice to recommend that package
> builders/installers do NOT create /etc/z* files, or make them minimal,
> so as not to interfere with users own initialization files.  Maybe
> it's time to relax that, or at least to provide a suggested skeleton
> .zshrc -- which we could connect to zsh-newuser-install to be slurped
> in without having to go through all the questions if you just want to
> "feel lucky".

The latter is what i'm suggesting, yeah. Dumb down the wizard a bit, add a
flashy option to the first screen that says 'do the cool things (recommended)'
or whatever, and have it install a well-commented .zshrc with the settings
that that a novice/casual user would look for.

On 2 Jan 2020, at 20:45, Bart Schaefer <schaefer@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> I've been noodling with a default completion setup module for a while
> (though haven't worked on it in months) and we could certainly do a
> better job of exposing the prompt theme system since pretty prompts
> apparently are what many people go looking at OMZ to find.

I think that would help

dana