Re: utf-8

[Павлов Николай Александрович <kp-pav@xxxxxxxxx>]

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On December 19, 2014 9:34:45 AM EAT, Ray Andrews <rayandrews@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>On 12/18/2014 06:45 PM, Bart Schaefer wrote:
>> Did you read the entirety of my last message or did you stop after
>the
>> first two sentences?  There's more below the part of your message
>that
>> I quoted.
>Yes. But where I loose the scent is in thinking about, specifically,
>Cyrillic.
>Cyrillic does not have a 'real' 'n' character.  They have two
>'backwards'
>capital ens that are vowels, and the sound 'en' is represented by 'our'
>
>'H'.
>So, since their keyboard would be devoted to their own alphabet (better
>than
>ours, BTW), where would the 'n' character be so as to type '\n' ...
>there *is* no
>'n' character!  Would they use '\H' ('H' being the Cyrillic letter
>representing the sound 'en'?
>> Re-read the last paragraph of my previous message, please.  In UTF-8
>the
>> code points are based on the visual representation of the character;
>in
>> multi-byte Unicode there are multiple similar characters based on the
>> source language and semantics, but the ASCII subset is always the
>same
>> code points as is ASCII, including "control characters" like newline.
>What would constitute the 'visual representation of the char'?  And
>ASCII may
>maintain a consistency, but if my KB is Cyrillic, where does that leave
>me?
>Would their 'H' produce ASCII #78 (which is is as close as you can get
>to Latin
>'N'?  Cyrillic has more letters, so how would  one begin to ASCII
>Cyrillic? Nope,
>that can't be the way.  But I'm sure the Russians can print newlines
>somehow
>and I can't believe they have an 'n' sitting there for just that
>purpose.  Do they
>enter the needed value in hex? Or does zsh not worry about it, and the
>Russians
>have to bind a key? If so, then yes, it's off topic.

Did you read my messages? ***RUSSIANS ENTER THIS KIND OF THINGS USING ENGLISH KEYBOARD LAYOUT***.

If you are in an non-English environment you are concerned about a way to switch keyboard layouts, input methods or something like this and have one of such things be able to produce English text.

>
>Sorry for being stupid, but I really don't get it.

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