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Re: Unicode, Korean, normalization form, Mac OS X and tab completion
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- From: Daniel Shahaf <d.s@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- To: Kwon Yeolhyun <yeolhyunkwon@xxxxxx>
- Subject: Re: Unicode, Korean, normalization form, Mac OS X and tab completion
- Date: Sun, 1 Jun 2014 16:53:47 +0000
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Kwon Yeolhyun wrote on Sun, Jun 01, 2014 at 14:30:03 +0900:
>
> On Jun 1, 2014, at 11:25 AM, Daniel Shahaf <d.s@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>
> > Bart Schaefer wrote on Sat, May 31, 2014 at 14:29:26 -0700:
> >> On May 31, 8:16pm, Peter Stephenson wrote:
> >> }
> >> } I'm currently wondering if there is scope for normalising keyboard input
> >> } really early --- before we feed it back to the shell --- and turning it
> >> } back into the usual keyboard form right at the end
> >>
> >> Per thread with Chet, I think normalizing the filesystem is the easier
> >> way to go. Keyboard input is already as close to normalized as it needs
> >> to be, I think, and with only a couple of exceptions all the names we
> >> get from the filesystem come through zreaddir().
> >
> > What about, say, people doing 'ls' and copy-pasting a filename from the
> > output into a command line? Wouldn't that result in NFD keyboard
> > input?
> >
> > FWIW, while OS X always returns NFD filenames, one could also imagine an
> > OS that is normalization-aware (forbids creating a file if its
> > normalized name is the same as the normalized name of an existing file)
> > but octet-sequence-preserving, and on such an OS both the readdir()
> > output and the user input would need to be normalized.
> >
> > Also, other unixes allow you to have both the NFC-form and NFD-form in
> > the same directory, e.g., 'touch fooá fooá' works just fine on linux
> > ext4 (the first filename is composed, the second decomposed); in such
> > cases normalization magic should not be done.
> >
> > Fun! :-)
> >
> > Daniel
>
> Fortunately, I think Mac OS X can handle input in decomposed or composed form.
Yes, AFAIK, OS X accepts input in any normalization and returns
NFD-normalized filenames.
> So I think we can convert decomposed filenames into composed after readdir. It will work at least for Korean.
That would work if the input is in NFC.
> Detecting, composing, and decomposing hangul can be done easily.
It is easy to convert any Unicode string to NFC or to NFD, not just
strings consisting of Hangul codepoints.
Cheers,
Daniel
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