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Re: Rewrite of zsh-newuser-install (Mikael's subthread)
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- From: Marlon <marlon.richert@xxxxxxxxx>
- To: Daniel Shahaf <d.s@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Cc: İsmail Dönmez <idoenmez@xxxxxxx>, Arseny Maslennikov <arseny@xxxxxxxxxxxx>, Kamil Dudka <kdudka@xxxxxxxxxx>, Zsh hackers list <zsh-workers@xxxxxxx>
- Subject: Re: Rewrite of zsh-newuser-install (Mikael's subthread)
- Date: Sat, 10 Apr 2021 14:23:32 +0300
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> On 7 Apr 2021, at 19:24, Daniel Shahaf <d.s@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>
> I think there's a distinction to be drawn between "stuff we should
> enable in the default zshrc" and "cool stuff that people might want to
> use, or read to learn about useful tricks/features".
>
> I agree with Mikael and Bart that most of your zshrc falls under the
> latter category. That has its place (cf. Misc/vcs_info-examples), but
> it's too magical for the default.
>
> That's also one of the standard criticisms against oh-my-zsh, by the way.
I have heard many criticism against OMZ, but it being “too magical” is new to me. What exactly do you mean with that?
>> Some quotes:
>>
>> "this zshrc offers a lot of tricks I personally wanted to use but didn't know they were already implemented; thanks a lot for shining a light on them!”
>>
>> "I gave it a spin and it looks very nice, much less scary than the default one. I've checked the default .zshrc and it looks fine to me."
>
> If the author of the second quote wishes to join this thread, they're of
> course welcome to do so. They might change their opinion, or change
> ours.
I’ve now CC’d them, plus the others from which I’ve gotten feedback, on this email.
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